Yeah, thank you. So you asked about the experience in the UK
對,謝謝,你問及英國的經驗
I was just at a meeting with investigators from the UK
我剛同英國的研究者開過會
and really I think people are quite hardened by the reduction,
由于這三五年內,
the measurable reduction in salt intake
鹽攝取量明顯減少
over the 3 to 5 years that they've been involved in these efforts
人們的決心越來越堅定了
They're in the process now of really analyzing the other types of data that you might want.
他們正在著手分析其它類型的數據
You're probably interested in did the blood pressures go down?
比如血壓是否下降,
Did the heart attacks go down?
心臟病是否減少
And they're in the process of doing that
他們正著手做這個
They're still early on in all of this
不過這都還剛開始
But I think the experience of the UK suggests that it can in fact be done
不過我認為,英國的經驗證明了,這是可行的
And if you look at the experience in other countries
其它國家的經驗也值得借鑒
ather countries have taken this very seriously
這些國家都非常嚴肅
And if you look at Argentina, there've been really nice studies
比如阿根廷就做過很好的研究
In Argentina, they eat a lot of salt that comes from bread
阿根廷很多鹽攝取都來自面包
And so there've been nice studies where they work with baker's
所以有研究者同面包商協作
and they actually say, put a little less salt in the bread
讓其在面包中減少含鹽量
and all of a sudden people are eating less salt
突然間,人們的鹽攝取就少了
In countries where the salt intake comes from preserved fish
有些國家鹽攝取主要來自咸魚
they work with the manufacturers of preserved fish and they say, use a little less salt
于是有人同制造商協作,減少咸魚中的鹽
In countries where soy sauce is the main source of salt
有些國家醬油是主要的鹽來源
they figured out how can we reformulate this
人們會重新設計配方
Each country has taken slightly different approaches to doing this
每個國家的做法都有所不同
And the UK is probably, the experience is probably closest to ours
英國也許是同美國最相似的
Where they really worked with processed food manufacturers to do this
他們是同加工食品生產商協作
And I think the people who've lead this effort in New York and now nationally
現在,紐約及全國范圍內進行這項嘗試的人
have really tried to continue this charge to encourage the food manufacturers to continue to sign onto this
仍然在繼續設法鼓勵制造商參與進來
I would say probably the biggest target that is still the most difficult to control is the restaurant industry
另外還有一大目標,不過這很難控制,也就是餐館行業
And there's some hope that with increase labeling of restaurant foods
讓餐館食物多打標簽也是有一定希望的
That we'll be able to make choices of what we eat in restaurants as well
這能讓我們點餐時有所選擇
but I think that's always a big challenge
不過這是很大挑戰