In the past, they floated the idea of taxing at the point-of-sale
過去,他們提出過銷售點征稅的方案
But those taxes have been really low
不過這些稅很低
And they don't think that those taxes are enough to actually change people's behaviors
他們認為這無法足夠影響消費行為
And so the idea of the excise tax is that we're really making the producers of these products pay the tax
而特許權稅是讓生產者來交稅
Which means they will pass the cost along to the consumer
生產者會轉嫁給消費者
and at a cost point of about 20% increase in the product
這會讓銷售價格上升約20%
That people are likely to change their behaviors
從而改變消費行為
And this is something if you look in the past month this has been introduced in the state legislature
上個月,這被提給州立法機構
There has been a lot of interest in that in the State of California
這對加州有很大的好處
Other questions? Yes. So you are very astutely pointing out
還有問題嗎?對,你很精明地指出
that low sugar foods are high in salt and that is a challenge
低糖食品都含高鹽這是一個挑戰
I very much agree with you
我很贊同你說的
that if we are in the position of buying foods that are ready packaged for us
如果是購買已經包裝好的食品
that one side product of lowering the sugar content
減少糖含量的同時
is that many, many manufacturers are raising the salt content
很多制造商會提高鹽含量
I don't think that this needs to be the case but it clearly is the case
我不認為應該這樣,但很不幸,這就是現實
Which is one of the reasons why for me these are two linked things
所以我認為這些應該放到一起考慮
We can't unlink because if we unlink them
這些不能孤立開來
What's happened over time is that we've created low fat foods that have more sugar and salt
否則很可能出現低脂肪但高糖高鹽的食品
We've created low sugar foods that have more salt
或者低糖但高鹽的食品
and all three, fat, sugar and salt are related to our health or cardiovascular health, are related to obesity
脂肪,糖和鹽這三種都關系到肥胖以及心血管健康
are related to other things that we think are important for our health
合理攝取對我們的健康至關重要
and so I think they all have to be tackled together
三者應該綜合起來考慮