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Is what we see is the outcome, I think CBT falls short of the need for this and maybe dynamic does as well.
我們看到的是結果我認為CBT無法滿足這個要求動態療法可能也做不到
It's not so much based on early childhood experience but the relationship is key,
它不是很大程度上建立在早期童年經歷上其中關系是關鍵
the relationship is where the safety begins to emerge, as maybe was illustrated in that story
安全感就是從這種關系中出現的可能那個故事也能說明這一點
where I went to the guy's wedding and then he could talk about it
我去了他的婚禮然后他可以談論折磨
because of what was happening between us, um, again that wasn't my plan but you learn as you go.
因為我們之間所發生了這些事情我再強調，這并不是我的計劃，但是你們可以從中學習
Thank you. Yeah. Martha. I wanted to ask you about the role of anger in the therapy.
謝謝你，不用謝。瑪莎。我想請教你憤怒在治療中的作用
I mean one might think that um the antidote an antidote to the shame and humiliation and the destruction of the personality
有人認為憤怒是解藥可以對抗羞愧感和恥辱感要摧毀人格可以
would be to get the person to be angry at the people who did it to them and say this just wasn't right,
讓人們憎恨那些對他們施暴的人說這么做不是對的
I have a right to be treated with dignity and so on
我有權得到有尊嚴的對待，等等
and also for you as therapist the anger might prevent who did it to them and say this just wasn't right,
對于你來說，治療師，憤怒可能阻止某種抑郁感和分崩離析感的產生
setting in. I just wondered what you think about that?
我想了解你的看法?
Yeah the anger, often I find is greater on our side as the therapist.
是的，我常常發現我們作為治療師，反而憤怒感更強烈
It's like other trauma, um, when a woman is raped or when a child is abused,
這像是另一種創傷當一個婦女被強奸，兒童被虐待
they find their first stance often is to blame themselves for it
他們的第一個反應就是責備自己
and they don't reach a point of anger er even when a woman has been raped
他們不會到達憤怒的程度甚至是一個遭到強奸的女性
she can say somehow I feel dirty, er, somehow I shouldn't have put myself in this situation,
她會說，我覺得自己很臟我不能再想象那個場景
somehow it was my fault and sometimes society colludes with that too.
這是我的錯有時候社會和施虐者串通一氣
The same thing with victims of torture.
折磨的受害者也是這樣
They blame themselves for it, that I shouldn't have done it this way, or I shouldn't have done it that way.
他們責怪自己我不應該這么做我不應該那么做
