Psychology on the other hand, the APA has refused to take that stand they're saying that psychologists being present
心理學,另一方面美國心理學協會拒絕選擇立場他們聲稱,心理學家在場
can mitigate the effects that they can help to er, prevent harm, er, a lot of us don't buy that,
能夠減輕危害,他們能夠幫助預防危害,我們很多人都不相信
we think it's being done for other reasons that there's tremendous organisational advantage
我們認為,他們這么做還有其他的原因該協會從屬于國防部
in being affiliated with the defence department um, that's certainly not acknowledged and
可以帶來巨大的組織優勢當然,他們并不承認
that's my opinion er as one factor on it but by the day and by the week this is roiling
這只是我個人觀點,其中的一個因素但是,隨著一天天的過去,人們逐漸意識到
the er Psychology Association even the Anthological, the er American Anthropological Association prohibiting its members from being involved in
心理學協會,甚至美國人類學協會都會禁止它們的會員參與
these kinds of um efforts and many, many people are resigning from the er APA
這種酷刑審訊活動很多很多人就是因為這個原因
because of this and it's very much an unsettled matter.
從心理學系會辭職了這很大程度上還算是個懸而未決的事情
Um, I just wanted to add that part as well.
我想補充這個部分
Er, we'll be available for questions afterward, we'd appreciate your attention.Why don't we do that now if you don't mind?
下面大家可以問問題了謝謝大家如果你不介意的話現在就問問題吧?
OK sure.It'll be like a (Inaudable)It doesn't matter.
好的,沒問題.將是,好的,沒關系
Ok, and I'll actually take the prerogative and ask the first question if you don't mind?
好的,那我就利用自己的特權問第一個問題,可以嗎?
Sure Um, you talk in your presee about the secondary victimisation that one might think
當然可以,你在你的演講中提到二次傷害,你們可能會認為這會
um would occur to somebody that's doing what you're doing for so long and,
發生在和你一樣在這個行業待很久的人身上
and you suggest that um, there's so much hope and admiration that you, that you um gain that there's um,
而你的觀點是你從中得到了很大的希望和贊賞,我覺得你甚至認為
I think you say actually outweighs it, but I wonder if you'd talk to us a little bit more about how you do deal with um that,
希望大于痛苦我好奇的是,你能不能給我們多講一講,你是怎么處理的呢
that sort of pain on a such a long term basis.
長期過程中處理這種痛苦
Bill Goreman Yeah that's another topic I've presented programmes on.
是的,這是我為這個項目準備的另一個話題
I run a supervision group on Tuesday nights it goes from 7 to about 9:30 for about 7 of the providers and one of the reasons for
我每周二晚上,會主持個指導小組從7點到9點半有7個人,開這個小組的原因
it is to handle the reactions that happen on our side in doing this kind of work.
就是處理和把握我們心理學家的反應我們在做這種工作的反應