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When Catmull, Jobs, and Lasseter got settled at the conference table, Katzenberg was forthright.
卡特穆爾、喬布斯和拉塞特在會議室一落座，卡曾伯格就看著拉塞特，開門見山地說：
"John, since you won't come work for me," he said, looking at Lasseter, "I'm going to make it work this way."
“約翰，既然你不愿意來為我工作，我們就用這樣的方式來合作吧。”
Just as the Disney company shared some traits with Pixar, so Katzenberg shared some with Jobs.
不僅迪士尼公司跟皮克斯彼此之間有一些共同點，卡曾伯格跟喬布斯也是如此。
Both were charming when they wanted to be, and aggressive (or worse) when it suited their moods or interests.
兩人都善于施展魅力，當(dāng)興之所至或情緒高漲時也都富有攻擊性（甚至更糟）。
Alvy Ray Smith, on the verge of quitting Pixar, was at the meeting.
即將離開皮克斯的阿爾維·雷·史密斯當(dāng)時也參加了這次會議。
"Katzenberg and Jobs impressed me as a lot alike," he recalled. "Tyrants with an amazing gift of gab."
“卡曾伯格跟喬布斯的相像給我留下了深刻印象，”他回憶說，“都是具有驚人口才的暴君。”
Katzenberg was delightfully aware of this. "Everybody thinks I'm a tyrant," he told the Pixar team.
卡曾伯格對此自鳴得意。“所有人都認(rèn)為我是個暴君，”他告訴皮克斯團隊，
"I am a tyrant. But I'm usually right." One can imagine Jobs saying the same.
“我也確實是個暴君。但我通常是正確的。”可以想象，喬布斯也會這么說。
As befitted two men of equal passion, the negotiations between Katzenberg and Jobs took months.
同樣富有激情的卡曾伯格和喬布斯，兩人之間光是談判就用了好幾個月。
Katzenberg insisted that Disney be given the rights to Pixar's proprietary technology for making 3-D animation.
卡曾伯格堅持要皮克斯授杈迪士尼使用其專利技術(shù)制作3D動畫。
Jobs refused, and he ended up winning that engagement.
喬布斯說不行，最終他勝利了。
Jobs had his own demand: Pixar would have part ownership of the film and its characters,
喬布斯也有他自己的要求：皮克斯要對制作的電影及其角色擁有部分所有權(quán)，
sharing control of both video rights and sequels.
并共同控制影片版權(quán)和續(xù)集。
"If that's what you want," Katzenberg said, "we can just quit talking and you can leave now."
“如果那是你想要的，”卡曾伯格說，“我們就不用談了，你現(xiàn)在就可以走。”
