How do you explain to outsiders what this conference is like? There are serious subjects here and goofy things too.
請向外行們介紹一下這個(gè)大會(huì),這里既有嚴(yán)肅的科目,也有愚笨的東西。
There is the social side and the technical content. People come to learn and share knowledge.
這個(gè)大會(huì)包含技術(shù)的內(nèi)容和社交方面。人們可以學(xué)習(xí)和分享技術(shù)
Then there is the need to make new friends. I try to grow both sides.
在這里也有結(jié)交朋友的需求。我希望兩方面我都能做到。
If you grew up in the hacking scene in the early days, with no video cameras and web chat, you formed your opinion of them based on what they did.
如果你是從那個(gè)沒有視頻攝像頭和網(wǎng)絡(luò)聊天的早期黑客環(huán)境中長大,你會(huì)根據(jù)那些黑客的所作所為來了解他們。
People accepted each other for what they did or what they knew.
人們也因?yàn)楦髯运龅氖禄蛩赖臇|西而相互接受。
You see people here with blue hair, dreadlocks or business suits.
你看一下這里的人,染著藍(lán)色頭發(fā)的、梳小辮的、穿正規(guī)職業(yè)裝的
They’ll be sitting around a table having a conversation because they have something in common and have moved past what you look like. That’s a big success.
他們都圍坐在一張桌子上交流,他們有共同點(diǎn)并經(jīng)歷相似,這是一個(gè)很大的成功。
What’s the contrast between Defcon and Black Hat?
黑客大會(huì)和黑帽黑客有什么區(qū)別?
Black Hat is like college and Defcon is the fraternity party. We also have really great content. At Defcon, it’s what I want to see.
黑帽黑客是學(xué)院派,黑客大會(huì)是江湖派。在黑客大會(huì)我們也有很好的內(nèi)容,這是我想看到的。
I want to learn about hacking Xboxes, satellite systems, and lockpicking, weird conspiracies.
來黑客大會(huì)的人想學(xué)習(xí)如何破解Xbox游戲主機(jī),破解衛(wèi)星系統(tǒng),或者開鎖等怪異的陰謀。
That content doesn’t make sense at Black Hat where there is more of a corporate focus.
這些東西放在黑帽將很不合時(shí)宜,-因?yàn)楹诿钡膮⑴c者多是公司。
How concerned are you about how the show looks to the rest of the world—about whether it’s on the right side of the law or responsible behavior?
你是否注意到外部世界對你們的看法,比如,是否偏離法律或責(zé)任?
I don’t really care what the rest of the world thinks.
我并不關(guān)心外 界的看法。
How do you stay on the right side?
你如何保證不走歪路?
You have to set an example and hope people follow it.
你需要樹立一個(gè)榜樣,希望其他人學(xué)著這個(gè)樣子來。
I can’t control what they do. If they want to be criminals, they will be criminals.
但我無法控制他們的行為。如果他們想犯罪,他們就會(huì)犯罪。
I try to show them there are alternatives. You shouldn’t be ordered what to do.
我試圖向他們展示,還有別的選擇。你不能命令別人如何做。