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Now, in the early days of my lecture, when I used to talk about risk, that is all I would say.
在我早先的演講中，當(dāng)我談到風(fēng)險(xiǎn)的時(shí)候，我就只講上面這些就夠了。
But people would sometimes try to ask me a question during the Q&A period.
不過(guò)有人會(huì)在后面的問(wèn)答環(huán)節(jié)里試圖向我提問(wèn)。
And I say "try to ask my a question" because it would often come out in a kind of garbled and uncomfortable way, and it took me a while to figure out what was going on.
我用了"試圖"二字是因?yàn)樗麄兛偸怯猛掏掏峦虏蛔匀坏恼Z(yǔ)調(diào)，讓我好一會(huì)兒才明白他們想要問(wèn)什么。
It would go something like this, they'd say, "Yeah, but isn't it risky because, you know, um, uh, when two men um, you know it's risky because uh the parts don't fit and um uh and the parts don't fit because uh when two men um and the parts..."
他們一般會(huì)說(shuō)："但是，確實(shí)很有風(fēng)險(xiǎn)啊，因?yàn)?..你懂的，額...當(dāng)兩個(gè)男人...額...這很有風(fēng)險(xiǎn)，因?yàn)樯眢w構(gòu)造不匹配，所以當(dāng)身體構(gòu)造不匹配的時(shí)候，額...兩個(gè)男人...額..."
And they'd go on and on doing this for a while.
他們吞吞吐吐半天說(shuō)不出來(lái)。
And finally, I would interrupt them and say, "Excuse me, are you trying to ask me about anal sex?"
最后我只好打斷他們："抱歉，你是不是想說(shuō)肛交這個(gè)詞？"
"Oh my God, he said 'anal sex' in Texas! Arrest him!"
"哦上帝啊，他居然在德克薩斯州說(shuō)了'肛交'這個(gè)詞。快逮捕他！"
I mean, it was a bad scene.
我想說(shuō)的是，局面很尷尬。
But, in fact, they were trying to ask my about anal sex, and I recognized that there was an interesting phenomenon going on.
不過(guò)他們確實(shí)是想要向我咨詢關(guān)于肛交的問(wèn)題。我進(jìn)而意識(shí)到一種很有趣的現(xiàn)象。
When people think about homosexuality, they think about male homosexuality.
當(dāng)人們想到同性戀的時(shí)候，他們腦海里出現(xiàn)的是男同性戀。
When they would think about male homosexuality, they would think about anal sex.
而當(dāng)他們想到男同性戀的時(shí)候，他們腦海里出現(xiàn)的是肛門(mén)性交。
When they would think about anal sex, they had this argument in their minds that the "parts don't fit," and I realized that if I was going to address people's actual concerns, I would have to address this argument.
當(dāng)他們想到肛門(mén)性交的時(shí)候，他們腦海里出現(xiàn)的是這樣的論調(diào)：身體構(gòu)造不匹配。隨后我意識(shí)到，如果我想要關(guān)注人們內(nèi)心里真正在想什么，我必須關(guān)注這種論調(diào)。
So, I actually have two responses to this argument.
所以對(duì)這種說(shuō)法，我有兩個(gè)回答。
First response: yes, they do.
第一個(gè)回答是：不，身體構(gòu)造是匹配的！
How do I know? Well, because if they didn't, people would try it, it wouldn't work, and then they'd go do something else.
我怎么知道？很簡(jiǎn)單，如果他不匹配，人們就會(huì)開(kāi)始嘗試，嘗試不成功的話就換一種方式唄。
I mean what's that scenario going to look like?
會(huì)有下面這種情況出現(xiàn)嗎：
"Oh my God, the parts don't fit! What are we going to do? I don't know! Do you want to go bowling? Sure, this isn't working!"
"哦上帝啊，他們不匹配，怎么辦啊？""我也不知道！你想改打保齡球嗎？""好啊，誰(shuí)讓它不匹配呢！"
I would actually have people during the Q&A portion of my program, I'm not making this up, there it is, "Well of course it's wrong because...
想必安排人在問(wèn)答環(huán)節(jié)表演這個(gè)小品小段兒是個(gè)不錯(cuò)的主意。這是真事不是我編的，他們會(huì)這樣問(wèn)："哦，當(dāng)然不匹配啊，這就是錯(cuò)的，原因是..."
And, I want to say that if you're doing it this way, you're doing it wrong.
我要回答的是："如果你要是用這種姿勢(shì)，明顯你就錯(cuò)了嘛！
What do you want me to tell you?
你這讓我憂什么可說(shuō)的！"
Gay people aren't stupid.
同性戀們又不傻。
We don't sit there saying, "Oh my God, the parts don't fit! What are we going to do?"
他們不會(huì)坐在那里干著急："上帝啊，身體構(gòu)造不匹配，我們?cè)撛趺崔k啊？"
I began to understand why people always focus on male homosexuality, right?
于是我可說(shuō)有點(diǎn)懂了，為什么人們總是只關(guān)注男性同性戀者。
What's lesbianism going to look like?
那么拉拉們的做法呢？
At this point, we don't have an argument anymore.
那么說(shuō)到這，我們面對(duì)的已經(jīng)不是一個(gè)反同論點(diǎn)了。
We have a panic, right?
而是一場(chǎng)災(zāi)難。
This brings me to the second, somewhat more serious response to the "parts don't fit" argument.
由此我引出第二個(gè)回應(yīng)，對(duì)于"身體構(gòu)造不匹配"的論調(diào)，我稍微嚴(yán)肅一點(diǎn)地回應(yīng)：假設(shè)你對(duì)某種特定的性行為方式。
Which is this, suppose you have an argument against a particular sexual practice, say anal sex.
比如肛交，提出反對(duì)的論點(diǎn)，那么這種觀點(diǎn)實(shí)際上是你對(duì)特定的行為的反對(duì)。
What do you have?
你要怎么反駁。
You've got an argument against that practice-which is not tantamount to an argument against homosexuality.
而這種反對(duì)論點(diǎn)絕不等同于對(duì)同性性取向的反對(duì)，因?yàn)椴⒉皇撬械耐詰僬呷歼M(jìn)行肛交這種行為。
Because not all homosexual people engage in anal sex, as I've mentioned, there are many different experiences, not only homosexual people engage in anal sex.
正如我之前提到的，有很多別的方式，而且并不是只有同性戀者會(huì)去進(jìn)行肛交這種行為。
This point also surprises some of my audiences.
這也是一個(gè)讓我的聽(tīng)眾們很吃驚的答案。
This is a great story about Strom Thurmond.
有個(gè)關(guān)于斯特羅姆·舍爾蒙德的有趣故事。
