That is the victims themselves internalise the aggressor, they will show domestic violence er violence in other situations as well.
這是因為受害者把自己內化為攻擊者,會出現家庭暴力的情況甚至在其他社會情況下出現暴力行為.
I, er in 20 years working in the Kovler Center I've sent that maybe 2-3 times
我在卡弗勒中心工作了20年了在我們和流亡者合作時看到過2-3次這種情況
so it's not a common manifestation what we've seen working with refugees working there.
所以這種情況并不常見
On the other hand, what I want to speak to is not just the negative side of it but the positive side of this.
另一方面,我想說的是不僅僅是其消極的一面也是積極的一面.
There was an article about 2 years ago that came out of Columbia University by George Bonanno on resilience
兩年前有篇文章是哥倫比亞大學的喬治·皮諾撒寫的是關于恢復力的問題,
and it was really paradigm shifting at least for me saying that if we look for trauma that if we look for symptoms, that's what we're going to find
至少在我看來這代表了范式的轉變,如果我們關注創傷如果我們關注癥狀我們會得到這些結論
and he looked at 2 conditions both grieving or bereavement and er trauma and he said that maybe we've over diagnosed,
他關注兩種情況,一是悲痛或者是喪親之痛,二是創傷他認為我們可能把它們過于夸大了
that when we see people with incredible suffering we tend to look for the symptoms and we find what we look for.
一般當我們看到經歷了巨大折磨的人我們會尋找這些癥狀然后我們找到預期的目標
He argued instead that if you look you'll also see resilience, that people can go through these experiences
他認為,相反如果我們我們還會看到人們的恢復能力人們在經歷這些經歷后
and come out of them perhaps even in some ways the stronger for it.
走出來,甚至有些時候更變得更加強大
Not certainly easily or always but it does happen and our experience at Kovler over and over again we see people struggling with huge, huge degrees
當然,這種情況的發生并不容易,也不常見但是我們在中心工作時一再看見人們與巨大的折磨作斗爭
of suffering and show incredible resilience that leaves us in awe.
并且表現出令人難以置信的堅強力讓我們目瞪口呆,為之敬畏
And I know it'll maybe sound a little emotional or corny but it is really why this work is not depressing to do
我知道這可能聽起來太過感情用事或者陳詞濫調,但是這才是為什么我們的工作做起來并不艱難,令人沮喪的原因,
because you see the capacity to survival the capacity to mobilise the resources and to get on with their lives in ways that we wouldn't have predicted.
因為你會看到人類生存的能力,調動資源的能力用我們之前無法預見的方式繼續自己的生活
I will finish up if I can with er kind of a snapshot to illustrate how this plays out.
最后結束時,我會快速回顧一下
Um, but I'll briefly sketch what goes into the treatment.
這個觀點下面我要大概介紹一下治療的情況