So once you've looked at the notebooks
一旦你看了那些筆記
and you've looked at some of the technique
看了那些作畫技巧
and the methods and the materiel,
畫法和材質(zhì)
then you came in with a sort of forensic detailing and technology
你就進(jìn)行了一些詳細(xì)的鑒定技術(shù)分析
and I understand that
我知道
you used multispectral technology for this image.
你用了多譜技術(shù)給那幅畫拍了一張照片
Could you talk a little bit about what you discovered
你能談一下你在那些情況下
when you looked at it under those circumstances?
有什么發(fā)現(xiàn)嗎?

When the portrait crossed my path as it were,
當(dāng)我有機(jī)會接觸那幅畫時(shí)
it was already being looked at by Pascal Cotte in Paris.
它已經(jīng)由巴黎的Pascal Cotte進(jìn)行檢查了
He has a company called Lumiere Technology.
他有一間公司叫光明技術(shù)
And he's invented this very remarkable scanning system
他發(fā)明了一種高超的掃描機(jī)器
which scans at 12 different spectral ranges.
能夠用12種不同的光譜波段來拍照
Three of them are in the infrared band as it were,
紅外波段有三種
outside the visible spectrum and one ultraviolet and
這些都是不可見光譜 還有一種紫外線
they produce images which are not accessible to the human eye.
它們能顯示出肉眼看不到的東西
It can tell us a lot about the condition of the restoration
它能讓我們看到修復(fù)的情況
and what's under the surface as well.
畫的表面下有什么
Plus the visible spectral band.
還有可見光波段
This produces an incredibly high resolution image,
它能生成非常高分辨率的圖像
we can zoom in and see minute detail,
我們能夠放大 看到最小的細(xì)節(jié)
but it also produces all this evidence
它還顯示出了很多證據(jù)
as to what lies beneath the surface.
很多藏在表面下的證據(jù)
And all the data coming up from that
這個(gè)機(jī)器找出來的證據(jù)
was all absolutely consistent with it being by Leonardo
都一致表示這是達(dá)芬奇的作品
and of that time.
而且時(shí)間上也吻合
It doesn't prove its by Leonardo
它證明不了這是達(dá)芬奇畫的
but it is absolutely consistent with us thinking
但它也沒有推翻了我們認(rèn)為
it's a Leonardo portrait.
這是達(dá)芬奇畫的肖像的假設(shè)
Did you learn anything from the pentimenti?
你從修改筆畫上獲得了什么信息?
The pentimenti that changes of mind,
修改的筆畫 反映了他想法的變化
there are lots of little manoeuvres along the face.
他在臉部那里有很多修改
He sort of caresses the face into existence
他似乎是把臉部的線條擦出來的
and far from getting the contour to die by reworking it
而且一直擦都沒有把輪廓線條擦沒了
he gets it to live even more if anything.
甚至他讓這些線條活過來了
So there are lots of little manoeuvrings.
所以那里有很多的小修改
And then there's quite big changes,the most conspicuous is
還有一些大修改 最明顯的
there's a call or a net cap on the back of her head
是她頭部后面有一個(gè)像小帽子的東西
and that originally was much fatter.
那原來是更大的
Her head was probably slightly,
她的頭可能有點(diǎn)...
her hair was bigger at the back
她后腦勺的頭發(fā)可能更膨脹
and there are signs that it has been rubbed out,
然后有跡象表明那里被擦掉了
probably with bread crumbs,
很可能是用面包屑
that the initial chalk under drawing has been taken out.
把原本在著色前用粉筆畫的線條擦掉了