《人民日報》記者: 總理您好,人民日報社記者提問。最近一輪房地產(chǎn)市場調(diào)控,大家都非常關(guān)注,中央的決心很大,力度也很大,一些城市的房價已經(jīng)開始回落。請問總理,住房價格回落到什么程度才算是達(dá)到了調(diào)控目標(biāo)?另外,面對經(jīng)濟增速放緩和地方財政壓力,樓市調(diào)控會不會半途而廢?謝謝。
Q: I am from People's Daily. I've seen a new round of housing market regulation withtough measures. How much will the price drop to meet the target of regulation? Will theregulation be abandoned half way due to local governments' interest?
溫家寶: 我最近出于一種責(zé)任感,把從2003年開始的房地產(chǎn)調(diào)控認(rèn)真地回顧了一下。其實我們在2003年已經(jīng)提出了6條調(diào)控措施,2005年又制定了國八條,2006年又制定了國六條。但是,為什么調(diào)控不見成效?群眾也在責(zé)怪我們,說房價越調(diào)越高,政策不出中南海。我聽到了感到十分痛心。我覺得房地產(chǎn)市場關(guān)系到財政、金融、土地、企業(yè)等各項政策,涉及到中央和地方的利益關(guān)系,特別是地方從土地出讓中獲取大量的收入。涉及到金融企業(yè)和房地產(chǎn)企業(yè)的利益,改革的阻力相當(dāng)之大。為什么這兩年房地產(chǎn)調(diào)控在艱難中看到一點曙光?有所進(jìn)展。首先是我們調(diào)控的決心堅定而不動搖;其次,我們抓住了一個抑制投機和投資性需求的要害問題,采取了有針對性的政策措施。
A: I've reviewed the housing markets regulations in recent years. I think this issue deals with therelationship between the interests of China's central government and local governments,especially those of land sellers. It also involves the finance issues and the benefits of manyhousing enterprises. So that's why it is a tough problem. However, we still see improvements inthis aspect, because of the central government's hard determination and effective measures.
China is a big country with more than 1.3 billion people, which is on the way to realizeindustrialization and urbanization. I believe people should have a place to live, but notnecessarily their own apartments. The government will encourage people to rent houses.
對于房地產(chǎn)市場,我有個基本看法,那就是中國有13億多人口,又處在工業(yè)化和城鎮(zhèn)化階段,對住房的需求是剛性的,而且將會是持續(xù)的。當(dāng)然,我們說住有其居,并不意味著住者有其屋。從方向上看,應(yīng)該鼓勵更多的人租房。
Regarding the development of the housing market, I hope it will develop healthy and smoothlyor it will endanger the entire economy. The price should be considered according to people'sincome, invest and proper benefits. What I want to say is that the current price is far beyondthat goal.
關(guān)于房地產(chǎn)市場發(fā)展,我有幾個觀點:第一,要保持房地產(chǎn)長期平穩(wěn)和健康發(fā)展。如果盲目發(fā)展,出現(xiàn)經(jīng)濟泡沫,一旦破滅,不僅影響房地產(chǎn)市場,而且會拖累整個經(jīng)濟。第二,什么叫房價合理回歸?我以為合理的房價,應(yīng)該是使房價與居民的收入相適應(yīng),房價與投入和合理的利潤相匹配。現(xiàn)在我可以明確地告訴大家,房價還遠(yuǎn)遠(yuǎn)沒有回到合理價位。因此,調(diào)控不能放松。如果放松,將前功盡棄,而且會造成房地產(chǎn)市場的混亂,不利于房地產(chǎn)長期健康和穩(wěn)定發(fā)展。第三,房地產(chǎn)的發(fā)展,毫無疑問要充分發(fā)揮市場配置資源的基礎(chǔ)性作用,就是說要充分利用市場這只手。但是政府這只手也不可以缺少,因為它更具有穩(wěn)定性和促進(jìn)公平。謝謝。