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So at a certain point, when kids get a little bit older,
到了某個階段，當孩子們逐漸長大，
there's this way that engaging with gross stuff isn't just about curiosity,
這樣對待惡心事物的方法，已不只與好奇心有關，
it's also about, sort of, finding out where the limits are, pushing the boundaries of what's OK.
某種程度上，也有可能與發現極限有關，在允許的情況下會試圖超越那個極限。
So, lots of kids of a certain age will have burping competitions or competitions to see who can make the grossest face.
因此，在特定年齡的許多孩子會參加間歇性的比賽，看誰的鬼臉最丑。
And they do that in part because it's a little bit transgressive, right?
某種意義上，正因為這樣做會有點出格，對嗎？
But there's another layer to why we define stuff as gross.
不過，我們對惡心事物的定義，還出于另一方面的考慮。
As humans, we've sort of extended the concept of disgust to morality.
作為人類，我們多多少少將惡心的概念拓展到了道德的范疇。
So, the psychologist Paul Rozin would say that many of the things we categorize as gross are things that reminds us that we're just animals.
心理學家保羅·羅茲說過，許多我們歸為惡心的東西，其實提醒了我們，我們只是動物。
These are things like bodily fluids and sex and physical abnormalities and death.
例如體液、性以及身體畸形和死亡。
And the idea that we're just animals can be really unsettling, because it can be this reminder of our own mortality.
確實，我們是動物的概念使人不安，因為它會提醒我們自己終有一死。
And that can leave many of us with this deep existential angst.
它還讓我們中的許多人懷有存在性焦慮。
Rozin would say that there's this way in which disgust and the avoidance of gross things becomes not just a way to protect our bodies,
羅茲這樣說過，厭惡和逃避惡心的事物不僅成為保護我們身體的方式，
it becomes a way to protect our souls.
而且還保護了我們的精神。
I think at a certain point, kids really begin to internalize this link between disgusting things and immorality.
我認為在某個階段，討厭的事物和不道德之間的關系會開始在孩子們的心底扎根。
