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And he a bit invest in oiling and gas deals and kind of staying at home, doing that sort of thing.
他在家投資石油、天然氣之類的生意
And he, I think, was, was kind of ask him get back into something. And Mike and I hit it off very well.
我感覺他想干一番大事業，我倆聊得很投機
And so Mike said, "OK, I'll invest",
最后Mike答應投資
after a few weeks and I said "No, we don't want your money , we want you."
幾周后我說我們不光要錢，我們希望你入伙
So we convince Mike to actually throw in with us, as an euqal partner.
于是Mike成了我們的合作伙伴
And so Mike put in some money, and Mike put in himself, and three of us went off.
他不僅投資，還參與創業，我們就這樣起步了
We took this design, and it was virtually done as an Apple II, and tooled it up, and announced it, a few months later at the West Coast Computer Faire.
我們拿出Apple II的設計，召開新聞發布會，幾個月后Apple II首次在西海岸計算機展覽會上露面
What was that like?
情況怎么樣？
It was great. We got the best, you know this West Coast Computer Faire was small at that time,
妙不可言，Apple II最受歡迎。那時西海岸計算機展覽會規模不大
but to us it was very large,
但對我們而言已經很大了
and, so we had this fantastic booth there, er, we had a projection television showing the Apple II and showing its graphics
。我們在展臺上用投影展示Apple II和它的圖形界面
which today look very cool but at that time were by far the most advanced graphics on the personal computer.
現在看有些簡單，但當時是PC上最先進的圖形界面
And I think, you know, my recollection is that we stole the show, and a lot of dealers and distributors started lining up and we were off and running.
我們出盡了風頭，批發商和經銷商蜂擁而至，進展非常順利。
How old were you?
當時你多大？
21.
21
21? you were 21 and you were a big success, you have just sort of done it by the seat of your pants. You don’t have any particular training on this.
21歲就這么大成功。可你從來沒有這方面的經驗，完全是憑直覺
How do you learn to run a company?
你是怎么學會管理公司的？
