Oprah: You are a very good reporter.

Leo: Thank you very much.

Oprah: Because in, in the earlier show, when you're asking a guy about the hybrid costs, how you know you are good. When I as a viewer, I'm watching, and I'm thinking of the question and then the question comes out of your mouth. It's really good.

Leo:Well, thank you.

Oprah: So, so when you were doing that, were you nervous doing that?

Leo: No. I wasn't nervous as, as I was on the show,that's....

Oprah: But as I was saying to you backstage, you know about it, I don't know about it. I'm just getting educated about it, because I'm like you guys that reading, er, global warming, ok, the temperature's gonna go up. Ok, they know, go to a cooler place. But now I feel a sense of responsibility, anybody else, today, feel that way, a sense of responsibility? Yes.

An identified woman: Well, I just have a question on a hybrid. Is it more expensive to, you know, get that type of car?

Leo: it is~it is more expensive. But you know,the~ the truth of the matter is, there're, there was an option in the curb that we showed earlier that if you just get a car that gets better miles per gallon, you are, you are essentially doing a great deed as well. You don't have to go for the hybrid vehicle. It's about the miles per gallon, the emissions that will release in the atmosphere, you know, being really concerned about...

Oprah: So what is a hybrid, what's a hybrid cost?

An Identified man: It's... Well, actually it costs a couple of thousand dollars more. But the government gives a tax rebate, which eliminates most of the difference and then you are gonna save even more on using less gasoline in future years.

An identified woman: In the long run, you're, gonna use less gasoline to save money.

Oprah: In the long run, it's like a light bulb.

An identified woman: It's like a light bulb

Oprah: like a light bulb.

An Identified man: Think ahead.

Oprah: Yeah, and so do you think will be a hybrid generation?

An Identified man: Eh,I, look! There's more demand for hybrids right now. They can't produce the cars fast enough, so I think there will be a lot of hybrids for, at least a decade, after that, maybe they'll come up with something even better.

Oprah: And then, probably the prices will go down also, that....

An Identified man: Prices will go down.

Leo: And we need these consumers really endorse these technologies and demand that car companies give us these, especially American car companies, 'cause like I said the Japanese are away ahead of the curve here.

Oprah: Why is that, as you said, use that figure, 5%, we are 5%, and use 25%. Why is that?

An Identified man: We are rich. We have a lot of money, and traditionally, that gets spent on making life easy, easier on those amenities, like a lot of lighting, big houses, big cars so you can go wherever you want, take whatever you want with you. Those all have taken a lot of energy. Now we need to focus on how we can do. Most of that also, by using less energy and of course, smart, technologically it can't be done. That's what this light-bulb shows.

Oprah: Ok.

Leo: And it's not just us, you know, it's up to our political leaders in the future, they, you know, create new ways to, you know, make energy for our homes and new technologies as far as cars are concerned, we need to really vote for the right people and support the right organizations. So we are... The demand, the supply can generalize....

Oprah: I think you are right. cause there's really just so much we can do. I mean we are gonna, I'm gonna get the bulb today. Somebody's gonna get performing. But ah,I'm gonna get, we're gonna, we can get the bulbs; we can get the cars; we can do whatever we can, but in the end, if your whole country is dependent upon oil, what, we can't, we don't have anything to do with that. Correct?

An Identified man: Well, you know, if everybody went out and got that high fuel economy car, you could affect it. And what's more, the price of oil is up right now; the price of gas is very high. The one thing that people can do to try to moderate those~those pricing increases,to buy high fuel economy cars, cause then it has used less. But in addition, it reduces demand, and that can bring the price right back down.